Tuesday, April 26, 2005

Seperation of Church and State?

Is anyone else getting slightly concerned by the American right throwing their Constitution out the window? The Senate Majority leader is now aligning himself with "People of Faith" against the Democrats, who he refers to as a "godless party."

Is it fair to say that there is currently no seperation between the American Congress and the Evangelical movement?

The House Majority Leader, the wonderfuly corrupt Tom DeLay has called for judges to be impeached if they continue to be "activist". For activist, read "independent." This all goes back to the Schiavo case, where the judiciary put a brake on the interfering of third parties, Congress included, in what had become a matter the courts had settled for good.

It is the opinion, I believe, of many senior Republicans that the courts should cowtow to the interests of the Christian right. And so should everyone else. The Democrats in the Senate are threatening to fillibuster any of the controversial judicial appoinments that Bush is trying to ramroad through. Of the ten that were rejected last term, he has renominated seven. Some, especially any heralding from the great state of Texas, should not even be judges in the first place. Priscilla Owen is possibly the most alarmingly discriminatory judge in America. Her rulings have in the past favoured big business over the individual and has shown a near comtempt for civil rights and compensation claims.

And she is one of Bush's star nominees.

I'll get onto Tom Bolton tomorrow.


Blogger ashokan420 said...

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3:46 AM  
Blogger ashokan420 said...

To answer your question: Yes, someone else is VERY concerned regarding the continued lack of a seperation between church and State in the USA. I AM. What Republican party? It is now the Christian Evangelical Right Party and if you aren't all of those things you are a second class citizen and I might as well - oh wait - I have been told - to move to Canada (I would if I didn't live in the greatest city in the world - nyc). I so wish New York City could secede from the USA. It seems the only rational people who do not want to force themselves (and their "morality") on everyone (while discarding a little document some of us remember as the U.S. Constitution) only live on the coasts (at least the majority or rational sane citizens). Rule of Law? That only applies when Bush is on his high horse chastizing someone else (Putin, most of Europe that didn't buy into his lies re: Iraq etc). Sorry - I can't stand to see what's happening happen while I feel so helpless. Perhaps I should move to the middle of Nowheresville, USA to try and influence "red staters" i.e., North Carolina where 9 members of a church were kicked out for voting for Kerry (ironic, I always thought voting was private like dying then again the Republicans stole two elections and tried to force their way into a family's private matter). ugh. I better get used to the cold - Canada isn't exactly tropical.

3:48 AM  
Blogger esmerelda said...

What??? seems the author of this post, may have forgotten that it is only a smidgen of time ago that the Irish Constitution off loaded it's connection with a religion. We are not out of the woods yet.

Religion in the US seems to be like religion everywhere, it is used to justify war, and murder and killing people, because that way it appears the murders can become martyrs and go straight to heaven, paradise, whatever.

Ireland is in no position to haw haw at the state of any country's seperation or not. Although it is preferable, that seperation of church and state do exist.

12:49 PM  
Blogger FJR said...

There's a difference between America and Ireland in this matter. The US Constitution clearly seperates Church and State, and the Founding Fathers were explicit on this.

The Irish Constitution first of all derives its authority from God, through the Irish people. It mentions how God supported prior generations through their "centuries of struggle". And mentions in one Article that the State will praise God's name.

The Irish State is not secular, in other words.

And if such wording was to be found in the American document then it would be another story. But, given the core value of secularism in the US Constitution, I thought that it merits comment when the political leadership from one faction (the majority) tries to circumvent and undermine one of the cornerstones of American democracy.

1:37 AM  
Blogger esmerelda said...

"The Irish Constitution first of all derives its authority from God, through the Irish people. It mentions how God supported prior generations through their "centuries of struggle". And mentions in one Article that the State will praise God's name."

Please forgive me if I cannot take this too seriously. "derives it's authority from God", and by means or email, fax, mobile phone? I suppose?

"God supported prior generations through centuries of struggle". God, whomever she/he may be may have supported the Irish people, however, God's self-appointed representatives on earth, the Church, did not. Ireland, along with some other European countries, were actually a facist-Catholic dictatorship, (Spain, Portugal) with very little to seperate the governance of this country from that by which Stalin governed Russia. All done in the name of God.

I have no time for those who use the name of God to justify ungodly actions.

6:25 AM  
Blogger FJR said...

Em...when was Ireland a fascist dictatorship?
I am pretty sure we were one of a tiny handful of European states that has remained democratic since formation in the 1920s.

8:06 AM  

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